Saturday, July 05, 2025

NFA Items

 With the passage of Frump's Big Beautiful Bill, some provisions are starting to come to light. It appears that the bill eliminated the excise tax on short-barreled rifles and on suppressors.  I'm sure that the provisions will flesh themselves out in the coming weeks, but I admit that I am intrigued.  The items will still have to be regulated, but that $200 tax is gone.

I am intrigued. I have long thought that a rimfire with a 12 inch barrel and a suppressor would be the cats meow for small game and varmints.  And, if what I'm hearing about the tax is true, then the price of such a firearm just dropped by $400.

I happen to own a Ruger 10/22 that would be a perfect candidate for such a project.  I admit freely that I am totally ignorant about the various vendors of suppressors.  I don't think that I am looking for total silence (I know that is a pipe-dream), but a marked decrease in decibels would be a treat.

What do you think?

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

The Mossad have perfected this, if you research it.

Robert said...

I think it's absurd that suppressors in the US of A are "only used by assassins and terrorists" while in Europe it's considered rude to not use one.
I dunno about vendors and prices. Yet.

Anonymous said...

I use a 10/22 with a 16 inch 1 in 9 twist barrel by Shaw. but I also have 2 bricks of 60 grain sub sonics to shoot thru it. put a Witt SME on the end of the barrel
and it is air gun quiet. hard to find those 60 grain sub sonics these days though. glad I bought 2 bricks when I did. dave in pa.

Drew458 said...

It can be a bit of a challenge suppressing an open bolt (blow back action) firearm, similar to using a suppressor on a revolver. The bang comes out the back, so to speak. You will spend a lot of money for very small results. Any gun with a locked breech (eg a bolt action rifle) will be more muffled with the same suppressor. That said, subsonic.22 ammo is plentiful, and may be quiet enough in your firearm that you don’t need to buy a suppressor.

Also, with a locked breech gun, the longer the barrel is the quieter the bang is. And a 16” barrel doesn’t require any registration at all. On the fourth hand, a long barreled pistol with a brace may meet your needs. Lastly, a stronger recoil spring will delay the bolt opening in a blow back action, which could let a suppressor work better. Match the spring rate to the ammo; too strong a spring with low pressure loss velocity ammo might not properly cycle.

Good luck

Drew458 said...

PS a lever action .45-70 with a 24” barrel using heavy soft cast bullets, (450-550gr) loaded with about 8 grains of Bullseye or Unique is nearly silent with a muzzle velocity around 800-900fps. This is roughly twice the power of a .45 Colt. In case you had larger varmints to hunt. It’s not a long range round. Look up Paco Kelly who wrote about this decades ago.

Anonymous said...

Would be intriguing I agree. A T/C Contender with pistol length barrel could be rifle stocked now, replacing the pistol grip. Great pack rifle.

Anonymous said...

I like the Isis-2 line from Thompson Machine. Being lazy I love the ease of cleaning the monocore design

Old NFO said...

FWIW, I shoot both a Ruger 22/45 and Savage MK 2 22 with Eley 40gr subsonic and they are both quiet and accurate with a Surefire Ryder 22-S supperssor.

KurtP said...

"Frump"?

Anonymous said...

I find that a suppressed 22 with subsonic ammo is REALLY quiet - the action cycling or the bullet hitting is the loudest part of firing.

I'm curious to see the details - for example, currently buying an AOW is a $5 tax stamp but making one requires a $200 tax stamp.
I wouldn't be surprised to see quirks like this pop up soon.
As mentioned above, a pistol with a good silencer is an option.
The newer Ruger chargers have a Picattiny rail for a brace, so another option.
While I've got several tax stamp items, I have so far kept to one stamp per setup.
Jonathan